Minecraft Junkie

There seems to be this problem on the server, where mainly members and veterans are PvPing without the PvP tag. They seem to be allowed to do this as long as other players have their permission to do so. I feel that it takes away the point of having the PvP tag and I believe we should enforce either having the tag to PvP or not having the tag to not be able to participate in PvP. No exceptions with permission from other players, that's just my opinion.

I'm pretty sure that pvp'ing without the flag is not okay at all. In arenas maybe (places like thorn) but not on the basic map. I've jailed many a people for glitching pvp with bows to attempt to stop this.

Boxes turned my pvp on for some reason I think it was because me and all my friends were playing a game named Mike Myres where you get a plain bow and shoot someone once to catch them (you wont die) then as I logged on today miniguns just shows up in my house where I was! and kills me he then takes my bow which took 3 days to get and my sword that took 30 xp (looting III and Sharpness IV) mini has just randomly showed up beside me a lot and killed me! I guess he is tping to me without know and going invisible and then killing me when he takes off his invivisible! he just shows up far away from spawn infact miles away and kills me?????, I didn't want my pvp enabled or anything i didn't even see if he gave me a warning as junkie is so laggy since 1.6 so i cant see chat that often!! someone please do something about this i want all ym stuff mini took off me!

I've always made it a point to enforce the rules for the reason we have that rule. Moderating isn't black & white, there are always exceptions to everything. PVP, building rules, even things like xraying or duping. In the past (before Logblock let us TP to areas) we've had staff members download and use xray specifically to find hidden chests of members who have stolen, duped items, or xrayed diamonds to revoke the illegitimate materials. I'm not going to ban them for that, even though our "no xray" rule just says "no xray". TheDoleking is constantly trying to push plugins to their limits and find/use dupe glitches so he can tell the admins & we can better identify cheaters on our server. And because of the reason we have the "no duping" rule & the unique circumstances regarding our trust for him and why he's doing it, it's okay. (Which is also why we don't ban players for saying they accidentally found a glitch and telling us).

Now with this PVP rule, we've always had at least one problem here or there with members finding ways to attack others while staying invincible in non-PVP. Shooting from protected/residenced areas, dropping harming pots in spawn, and using glitchy bows to get around PVP. So we started enforcing the rule that PVPing when one party can not retaliate against the other is banned. Do not shoot from safe zones, do not use bows in non-PVP (back before we turned it back now), and now do not attack a PVP member when you are non-PVP (or vice versa).

So when we have a situation where we have two members that are shooting each other out of PVP, and they're both okay with it, I'm not seeing any reason to jail or "punish" them by promoting them to PVP. Now, we removed PVP and then brought it back with the PVP tags because not everybody wanted open-world PVP 24/7. Some people wanted to decide whether or not they could PVP, some wanted to be able to fight/be attacked any time at all, and some wanted no part of PVP whatsoever. If you wanted PVP all the time you could, and if you didn't you could have it turned off and choose when YOU WANTED to PVP in the arenas (if they were working, which they are not).

So when we have Evzoz & Mcnally shooting each other for the hell of it with their PVP tags turned off, I'm not seeing any issue. They are two members that do not want open world PVP, but want to have a short period where they can fight each other. So basically, what we're supposed to have anyways if the arenas worked, except they're just using their house as the arena instead of the predesignated spot.

If there's a serious issue with members PVPing outside of the tag that I'm not aware of, or if the issue is escalating past what I'm seeing, by all means bring it to light. But I'm just not seeing the problem with two consenting members fighting each other with bows if the tags are off. They're doing basically what they'd do if the arenas were working right, the point of the tags are for open-world PVP, and the point of the shooting rule is to avoid unfair combat. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

I want my stuff back... i'v had enough with mini and his "BlueBootBandits" clan they are op and it shouldn't be allowed... once we turn on pvp we might aswell jump into lava with all our diamonds etc! And it's always the same people (Me,Nally,Rigby,Mach,Hmach and others) so if something doesn't happen i shall be very annoyed and this may lead me to leaving the server...

Evzoz,