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Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:22 am
by Ez86
so i know i have nothing to say but...

[quote]I think that only the combat skills should be reset. im not saying that because i have a low combat skill because my swords skill is at about 500 im saying that because it is much easier to level up a combat skill then it is to level up gathering skills. either that or just remove the combat skills but i dont think that all of mcmmo should be removed.[quote]

[quote]If we do reset it anyways, we'll face this exact same problem in a few months. The smart players are going to spend a few weeks power leveling their axes, swords, and fists, and we'll be back to square one.[quote]

Yosh also got right, there is allways a way to exploid a good thing. Me got a rid of time atm wich i could spend at MC, youtube/google also will show a way to skill in a ridiccoulus way to reach a high powered status. And Heros, if i know right will be a biit complicated to understand for new ones and maybe will be disliked by vets who arent used Syberia.

Me personal agree with that. In my grinder i gather 30 or 50 mcmmo combat lvl per day or higher. Its also lame cuz no one wanna pvp that way with highskilled User and that could go to rape/hunting like before. So Toolskill yes, combatskill no.

[quote]maybe its a good idea to reset money too?[quote]
Nope, everyone has worked for that, maybe like boxes he digs the hole day like the dwarfs from snowwhite to get the money and all other vets/vip etc pp too. To set up a new econemy plugin and make the booker things like notice who got how much and re give it to all is a realy anoying task... so no


Now my personal suggestion. I never got the chance to celebrate the syberia experience totally, but a rpg like mc server is mostly crowned and should be much fun. Some towns raise up, player stuck together in case off a raid from other clans and stuff. Maybe factions back will be cool too. The vanilla world is seted up for thoose who not like that but i realy think every member will enjoy a RPG experience if it is fully explained how to do anything there so no one got the monopol of beeing OP. Food/weapon/potion trades etc will be etablished Alliances between the citys will maybe established. I know that i am one of the ,,Rapist,, that gone bored wandering around MCJ and slaughtered what i could slaughtered. But it was cuz i could do that. I honestly liked the idea of syberia.

And honestly, every plugin or no plugin pvp is funny as long as they win ;) And there wer allways people with more time or the will to get a mighty/arcane whatever slaughtermashine

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:29 am
by bally50
i agree but they should have a little money at the start not so much but please do NOT reset money it would be upsetting, how people have worked to get there money, the lose all of it.

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:42 pm
by Nicolu
Kommy if we get a new plugin for Iconomy, I personally volunteer to sit down with a list (that you'd have to provide) and set everyone to the amount of money they should have.

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:02 pm
by graystan21
Although I personally loved HERO'S, I do not think we should replace MCMMO with it. MCMMO is overpowered, but it is a huge weight in php. I at least think the passive abilities should stay so not everybody will become depressed that they worked so hard to get 1000 skill level in an ability of their choice. The aggressive, fight based abilities (like swords, axes, unarmed, archery) should be disabled, even if it has to be done using the permissions list Boxes has found. I do agree with Zera that it would be nice to have some sort of magic based plugin, but that would have to be discussed in Mumble or another topic. I also believe i remember Zera suggested a plugin that I though was pretty cool.

There are my two cents in this discussion and I can't wait to hear the outcome in this.

Since Nico personally stated that she would reset everybody's money when we do get a new economy plugin, that problem is out of the way. Thank you very much Nico for volunteering to do this time consuming task. It will at least make people not rage when they lose a couple hundred thousand dollars.

I agree we should delete all the unused worlds and not even try to make new ones. We can fit new arenas in some ocean in either New World or world if we decide to expand our gameplay. There is no need for any extra worlds, we can deal with New World, world, Nether, Creative, and End.

I never knew how the server was with star gates and warps since I joined right after New World was created. I do think it would be a good idea to bring it back though. The price of them would have to be discussed more in one of the Mumble discussions. I completely agree with boxes that only staff should be the only one that could make them so their is some sort of control in where they end up.

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:32 pm
by XlXDaltonXlX
Heroes is a very fun plugin but if you'll remember we had a lot of compatibility errors with it when we were working on syberia. It would be an amazing thing to have but sadly it is not compatible with Multiverse(Thats the multi worlds plugin right?) and the permissions where made to intentionally be confusing so that the creaters of the plugin could LOOK like cool people by offering their plugin but in the end be complete assholes about how it works so that you are forced to play on their server if you enjoyed the plugin.

The rest I'm mostly indifferent about. But heroes needs to be a big fat NO

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:15 pm
by Kaos1559
I wouldn't mind setting a time on the weekend or something to talk this over on mumble, because I have quite a few things to say on the matter.

PS: Heroes is Broken.

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:03 pm
by Kommy
Ok, so it looks like then we keep the mcmmo, but I need clear direction on what we have to adjust and we do need to adjust things with mcmmo to make it more fare I guess.
Also, we probably will go with multiverse portals instead of stargate or warp because I do believe there is a buying option on those too and its a huge plugin thats very active and we have it installed. Stargate and warp plugins are pretty much dead and its only matter of time when they stop working. Also stargate is kinda busy with all of those gates listed on sign, its a pain. I do like an idea of 100,000.00 per portal. We need to make it somewhat difficult and make people to work for those instead of buying crapload of portals and have the world just explode in size. Anyways, thats all for now and I think I have this weekend off if we need to get on mumble

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:05 pm
by Kommy
Nicolu wrote:Kommy if we get a new plugin for Iconomy, I personally volunteer to sit down with a list (that you'd have to provide) and set everyone to the amount of money they should have.
I think there is an easier way to switch to essentials eco. There is a function I just found that will read people balances because essentials themselves keep record of balances from iconomy plugin so as long as we run that function once it should record all people balances in essentials and then I just uninstall iconomy, so as of now I think we should be good. And also due to vault plugin we can use essentials economy with other plugins that never supported essentials before so we good there too

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:22 pm
by bfan1012
I want to keep my money D: Also, DON'T disable MCMMO Maybe in the Vanilla world, but not everywhere. Maybe you could figure out how to disable it in PVP arenas? Or when Pvp is toggled on MCMMO is disabled?
MCMMO has it's advantage, for things like Farming (Wood, or mining) So removing that IMO would be a big mistake.

Re: Ok Ok OK I heard all the suggestions.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:15 pm
by Explodingboxes
Since i dont want this discussion to die is there a good time on Saturday or Sunday when most of the staff can get on mumble to talk about this?